The ValleyViewpoint of the DoJ Ferguson report…

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Since I’ve actually read the report I feel I can stand justified my opinions I now put forth.

Backgrounders

I don’t think the Holder DoJ is a good one and I especially think Eric Holders history in the context of police and civil rights is a sloppy one. I find Holder specifically to have a zeal for race issues that fails to be connected to law.

I think the percentages that are quoted from the report are grossly misinterpreted.

I think the USA has many municipalities that use their police and code enforcement arms for revenue production.

I think entities sworn to find fault as a means to justify their existence will rarely if ever not find fault.

Here we go…

images1.jpegHolder has a history of being hyper focused on race issues. He in no small part cut his teeth on the issue with the successful reproach of the LAPD back in the day. Irony of that was that sizable funds were diverted from policing that would’ve clearly benefitted the minority communities and dumped into mind numbing compliance administrative work.

From the report

Data collected by the Ferguson Police Department from 2012 to 2014 shows that African Americans account for 85% of vehicle stops, 90% of citations, and 93% of arrests made by FPD officers, despite comprising only 67% of Ferguson’s population.

That’s far from the only stats list but it does appear to be the money shot. It is the weakest part of the report in my opinion and I think that weakness is why it also seems to be the part the anti-Obamanites latch onto so vocally. Those percentages are aligned quite well and could just as easily demonstrate proper profiling and policing on behalf of the FPD.

But there’s the rub. When you look at the data of the city budget and the workings of the Municipal Court you see where no matter the race of those brought forth there is an obvious Constitution crushing cash factory happening. I would put it to people that race could be taken off the table entirely and that Ferguson should be screwed tight for the actions of its court.

The DoJ Civil Rights Division is meant to find injustices against minorities. Not unlike how depending on the Oval occupant the DoL NLRB is meant to toss advantage to the unions it is an entity that if it looks it will find.

Mores the pity for with Ferguson MO the headlines is somehow this is a shame because blacks are injured. The truth of Ferguson and the DoJ report is that the Constitution was injured.

We would do well as a country if we’d put the latter first and foremost. Perhaps then we could truly be the United States of America.

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8 Comments

  1. lwk2431 says:

    FBI statistics for homicide indicate that blacks are almost 8 times more likely to be the offender than whites (and 6 times more likely to be a victim of homicide). I don’t think it is too farfetched to at least consider the possibility that in some areas blacks are much more likely to commit traffic offenses and escalate interactions with police to violent levels.

  2. Alfie says:

    I did say

    Those percentages are aligned quite well and could just as easily demonstrate proper profiling and policing on behalf of the FPD.

    That said though I still believe the real takeaway from Ferguson is the courts and budget aspect. Ferguson waives the Constitution in many ways and that should be unacceptable to any American. The city also has duplicated state laws into the municipal code and pursues violations not as violations of state law but of local law. The fine amounts are above the regional average. Those two factors combined, the cash cow concept of law and order in Ferguson is undeniable.

  3. lwk2431 says:

    “Those percentages … could just as easily demonstrate…”

    Percentages and statistics demonstrate nothing until you can demonstrate cause and effect. Unless one is a reverse-racist (as many are today) then the most likely cause for more blacks in jail and killed by police is that those particular blacks come from a culture of violence and law breaking (read Thomas Sowell’s “Black Rednecks and White Liberals” for some insight into that culture).

    “Ferguson waives the Constitution in many ways and that should be unacceptable to any American.”

    But the only reason that people seemed to have noticed is because they thought they saw a racial connection. Police all across this country violate fundamental individual rights every day. One of the more blatant ones is the seizure of property that is claimed to be involved in some illegal activity like drug dealing and keeping it unless the owner can prove the property is “innocent” (a.k.a. asset seizure laws where police routinely split a percent of the proceeds with the state and where it is very difficult to get one’s property back).

    Ferguson is no better and probably no worse than many jurisdictions in this country. Again they only reason anyone noticed is because a flagrantly “un-gentle giant” escalated a confrontation with a policeman to violence and got killed (and justifiably so most likely).

  4. Alfie says:

    Well I think you are going down multiple paths and presenting them as one.
    Sowell and others do a very good job presenting opinions but fail to go all the way. It is undeniable that throughout US history minority communities have experienced disproportionate ills and obstacles. The black community is the only one that has so persistently failed to overcome this. There is obviously something more contributing to this than the single sided effect of blacks themselves.
    As for the issue of civil forfeiture etc that is not relevant to the DoJ findings in Ferguson. It is however as you say a very real issue in the US.
    As for ferguson and why it went under the microscope… I think you’re wrong in your assertion. Clearly Ferguson’s abuses are systematic. As for the notoriety Browns actions only allowed forces beyond Ferguson to hype it which led to the investigation. Ferguson and communities like it pray they remain under the radar of both higher authorities and the general public.Brown was likely everything negative attributed to him but clearly after more facts are known the city failed him and officer Wilson as well.

  5. lwk2431 says:

    “Sowell and others do a very good job presenting opinions but fail to go all the way.”

    Actually if you read Sowell’s book “Black Rednecks And White Liberals” you will see that he marshals considerable facts to show that blacks were making very significant inroads into integration in the North before the mass migration of black “rednecks” there after WWII.

    “Clearly Ferguson’s abuses are systematic.”

    No doubt they are systematic abuses, but not necessarily racially motivated per se, but just abuses to bring revenue into the city. But also again, they are not particularly unique in doing that. There are more than a few “Fergusons” around the country, and some (like Chicago) quite a bit worse.

    Before the interstate system was fully established in the 1950s and 1960s, and I remember this very well, driving through Missouri to Chicago put one at risk in many little towns to get tickets for minor violations followed by a quick visit to a Kangaroo court and as heavy a fine as they could get away with. Remember my dad having to go to one where we were parked out in a field with about 50 other cars waiting to go through court.

    I haven’t personally experienced it, but have read about how police in Louisiana on this very long bridge across a swamp (10+ miles as I remember, have driven across) were big into stopping people and confiscating cash if anyone had very much. Some woman had received something like $50K in cash in a settlement and was basically robbed by La. police when they found it in her car.

    My own son, a United States Marine, was beaten up and robbed by police in a small California town then dumped outside of town.

    So there is a lot of injustice in this country and there are good and bad police. My family used to have a business in Chicago and basically had to pay the police off every week to make sure their alarm would get answered if it went off at night.

    If you think Ferguson is particularly unique then maybe you don’t get out enough. 🙂

  6. Alfie says:

    First off your son was robbed by crooked cops not railroaded by an unconstitutional act perpetrated under official guise.
    Ive read Sowell and quite simply he is similar to many black commentators. Researched and wordy on the problems very short on answers.
    Also the 20th century curve of blacks in the north had everything to do with small datasets exhibiting higher gains. Also the better generation of blacks in the north were exactly the folks scewed over by policies like red lining.

  7. jonolan says:

    One thing you have to remember about the “Civil Rights” arm of the DoJ – It doesn’t have to prove any form of real racism to “prove” racism. They just have to show that the law or its enforcement has a disparate impact upon persons along the lines of a specially protected trait.

  8. Alfie says:

    @ Jonolan you’re right and as I said they’re an entity that if they look they’re gonna find for self justification if nothing else

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