Seriously…stop lying…this is what you really want

You know it’s true.




  1. Huck says:

    You cannot know how many times I have been asked by students to take their picture in front of this when we go to the UN every year.

  2. Alfie says:

    I never liked this one although I found its details remarkable given its size etc. On the other hand I always liked the beating the swords one.

  3. jonolan says:

    I’m an old soldier so I know the lie of both those statues – which I loath and have to see on a regular basis. It only works if everyone does it. If one doesn’t it all leads to death and ruin.

    No man shall be secure in the harvest he would reap from the land turned by his plowshare lest there be men of similar and good character nearby with swords on their persons.

  4. Alfie says:

    Well my comment was all about an artistic appreciation not a political or philosophical one. The post did nod to the symbolism though and you’ve taken it to the next level and correctly I might add.

  5. jonolan says:

    I can’t separate the artistic from the philosophical.

  6. Alfie says:

    I can’t separate the artistic from the philosophical.
    I think we’ve had this discussion before.

  7. Rutherford says:

    I may be reading too much into this but I don’t agree with your basic premise. There are loads of folks who just want moderation. They don’t want a fully disarmed society.

  8. Alfie says:

    And obviously I can equally say there are loads that….

  9. Alfie says:

    Also R for your FP concerns.
    Don’t fret North Korea. They’re irrational and pathetic but the regional players and potential leash holders (Beijing) aren’t gonna have Kimmie part III pissing on the neighbors. Look for a new x+1 party talks thing.
    Don’t fret Iran,in fact be bizarrely optimistic and amaze your friends. The M.E. is about to experience some shifts and quite likely some conflict but it won’t be Iran ramping it up or calling the shots. Iran is about to experience a bit of renewed schism and will be forced to make some new decisions. There position on Syria is untenable and the opening for nuclear talks give them a win/win opportunity I think they are going to bite on.
    Not to be all sunshine though. The Stan’s (all of them) and the Sahel (Mali,DRC etc.) offer some bad mojo.

  10. jonolan says:


    This is the way it will play out if they get their way:

    “Reasonable” and “moderate” restrictions will be enacted and they will fail to solve the “problem” that the gun-grabbers manufactured. Then they expand and tighten those restrictions and again they will fail to solve the “problem” that the gun-grabbers manufactured. A the end will be confiscation and a disarmed society, just as they’ve done it so many other places in the world.

    Now I’m not much of one for the Slippery Slope but this slide is well-documented throughout both history and current events.

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