In2 How many lies do you see in this statement from Gordon Brown

The Prime Minister said: “I don’t like raising taxes. In fact we cut the basic rate of tax to 20p.

You don’t tax for its own sake, only for meeting the needs of our country.”

People on modest incomes would be protected from the tax changes, he said.

“But to equip ourselves for the future costs money. That’s why it’s right those who have done best over recent years, those earning over £150,000, pay a bigger contribution than they do.”

(Alfie says:the last one is a two’fer)

I count 5 and I think they are applicable to the US Congress of recent history and has links to the sitting President.

I also find it appalling that any leader can call for a 50% tax bite with a straight face.Yanks who want to talk of Ikes 90% need to show me who actually paid that.

50% tax rates are confiscatory. They’re simply a criminal act carried out by the government and supported by the failings of the rest of the electorates morality. If you buy into class envy you are a turd. Plain and simple. 

50% ???!!! That’s freaking HALF !!! It reminds me of that Eddie Murphy skit. I just don’t find Brown or Obama nearly as funny as Murphy was when he was funny.

Thoughts, comments, anything ?

Quote from ITN



  1. Charlie says:

    The irony is the only people earning enough in the current economic climate to hit the 50% threshold are the bankers and civil servants.

    The average salary in Britain is just £20,000.

  2. Free to think, free to believe... says:

    I think 6 – whilst technically he has cut basic tax rate he also started to raise taxes on anything that moves (and a few things that don’t) so that it was meaningless to say that the basic rate was cut…

    The average salary is nearer £25,000 but hey that’s only £5,000 I don’t have out of a few more…

    If all the other comments were true I would be more sympathetic to the idea that if someone earns more than six times the national average – which means that most folk earn around half to two-thirds of that – can be taxed after that level for that amount…

    Nevermind but then just think – all tax is confiscatory… Do you have a choice about it? I mean, really?

  3. Alfie says:

    Thanks Charlie for the input.
    Free to… Holy cow was wondering where you went. Hope all is well. Thanks also for the input. I appreciate that two folks from across the Pond took the time to comment.
    As for taxes. As a rule i don’t like them but even I’m fairly conservative I think taxes are a necessary evil. HALF of one’s income is truly crazy though.

  4. Free to think, free to believe... says:

    Hmm, I’d just have to ask which average you’ve got there Charlie (mean, median or mode)? As I think the mean [count up each salary and divide by total] is around £25,000 but the mode [the number that occurs the most in the sequence] and the median [the ‘middle’ figure in the spread – you count how many salaries there are and pick the one in the middle] could be anything for all I know… both the mode and median will probably be lower than the mean as it’s skewed by the spike of millionaires/billionaires…

    On another note Alfie, whilst I’ve been away I have been doing that dangerous thing called reading and thought I might post a bit about torture and Gtmo if you didn’t mind…

  5. Alfie says:

    I don’t mind go right ahead. On another note I hope all is well.

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